Made Kami, 60, mother of three and grandmother of six, sells fabrics and souvenirs in Ubud

What’s the greatest lesson life has taught you?
You must be strong and work for your family.

What’s most important?

What advice would you give the younger generations?
Try not to worry about things but get an education and go out to work.

Are you worried about dying?

No. I’ll be with my husband again.

When was the happiest time of your life?
When my husband was still alive and my children were all young I was happy. But I’m happy now, too, with my children and grandchildren around me.

And the worst?

My husband died 27 years ago. It was a terrible time and it still makes me very sad to think about it.

What’s humanity all about?
Simply living together and loving.

Why are there so many conflicts in the world?
One person thinks one thing and another thinks something else, and it blows up into a big issue and gets bigger and bigger until it’s a war.

Is a peaceful world possible?
Yes, it is possible, but there would have to be some serious changes.

How old do you feel?
I feel my age. Sometimes my legs ache when I walk, and I get tired, which makes me feel 60.

Is one lifetime enough?

I will be reincarnated, so I hope to have many lifetimes.

How has Bali changed?
It’s very different to when I was young. There are so many tourists now and so much traffic. When I was young, there were hardly any tourists and we walked everywhere. I still like to walk to places but my children go everywhere by motorbike.

Has tourism been good for Bali?
Yes, when sales are good. Right now there are very few tourists and it is hard for a lot of people to make money.

What’s the major difference between the East and the West?
I don’t know. I’ve never been to the West and I don’t really know anyone Western.

Have you ever doubted your religion?

No, never.

What makes you so sure about it?
It has kept me strong since my husband died.

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