ALERT – Schapelle Corby to Be Pardoned by SBY: Report

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The Australian think-thank the Lowy Institute  in Sydney says convicted drug-smuggler Schapelle Corby is to be granted a pardon by President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.

The organisation said on its Twitter account: “Indonesian President SBY to pardon Schapelle Corby according to Indonesian sources.”

Corby, 32, is serving a 20-year term in Bali’s Kerobokan Prison for smuggling 4.2 kilograms of marijuana into the island in 2004.

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90 Responses to “ALERT – Schapelle Corby to Be Pardoned by SBY: Report”

  1. jennifer Says:

    This is fantastic news!!! Very happy to hear some good news for this young women.

  2. Toby Says:

    i pray this is true for schapelle, long awaited good news!!

  3. Jill Horner Says:

    Please stop believing this stuff, because it just isn’t true.

    It is a screw up by a Lowy intern. It is as simple as that.

    Women For Schapelle has it right on Facebook, having researched it properly:
    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=268362329195

  4. donindevrock Says:

    Fingers, toes & eyes crossed, that this latest news is true, and Schapelle is freed at long last.

  5. Kay Danes Says:

    I wonder if her supporters will now retract all their vile attacks on President SBY? If this report is true then he has shown a great deal of compassion for Schapelle Corby. He was not ever obliged to pardon her.

    People ought to remember this case for many years to come. The Indonesian authorities were caught between a rock and a hard place, particularly since the defence for Schapelle was unable to categorically prove her innocence as claimed. It may well be that she was innocent but the lessons learned here show that you need more than ‘I didn’t do it’. You need to engage an experienced legal team to negotiate what is often a very complex diplomatic and legal minefield.

    I hope for Schapelle’s sake that confirmation of this report comes quickly.

  6. Maria Says:

    My personal opinion aside, about the indonesian law and the circumstances at Kerobokan jail, I hope this is not happening.
    She is guilty of what she did and has to live with the consequenses, like many others like her, all over the world.
    Really don’t see why she, particularly, should be granted a pardon. Again, my personal opinion.

  7. RIC D T WILSON Says:

    This is great news and could be the long awaited answer to many prayers.

  8. Billy Dean Says:

    Maria you are an idiot, no-one who has studied the FACTS about this case could claim she was guilty, the most you could possibly say is that she didn’t get the chance to prove her innocence.

    Had this been the other way round, and she was coming into Australia, she would at least have been given a fair trial, in Indonesia there is no such thing, you’re guilty as soon as you’re charged, you can only plea for a lesser sentence.

  9. fairbloodydinkum Says:

    hmmmmmmm…….strange the news/rumour is not front page on the papers in oz..

  10. Kay Danes Says:

    I don’t think it’s very nice to get into name calling just because someone has expressed an opinion that differs to others. Name calling is rather childish.

    To say that you will never get a fair trial in Indonesia is also an inaccurate evaluation. There are plenty of cases whereby the judicial process has been followed in accordance with legislation. Admittedly there are challenges with the system but to generalise and say that no one can get a fair trial is simply ignorant.

    I hope that Schapelle is repatriated on humanitarian grounds, whether that be to a secure facility in Australia or by way of a full pardon “IF” that is the wish of President SBY.

    I also hope that the other three Australians currently on death row are not executed because they appear to be setting a far better example NOW, showing that the rehabilitation programs in Kerobokan Prison appear to have influenced them towards more positive behavioural patterns, according to all the reports.

    And finally, I hope that the Indonesian Government will soon sign on to a Prisoner Transfer Agreement that will enable all Australian prisoners to be transferred to prison facilities back in their respective home states. This would relieve a terrible burden that is currently on their families.

  11. Kay Danes Says:

    I’m sorry but I can’t access that link Jill. Must be my settings.

  12. dazza Says:

    I hope they keep her locked away where she belongs.

    May drug dealers rot in cells.

  13. shorty Says:

    go to the lowy institute website and search ‘corby’. the last entry was about comments made by bruce gyngell in 2005!

    the institute doesn’t have a twitter account. the report comes thru lowy interns. the intern posting the original post must, quite rightly, be feeling a little insecure.

    as fairbloodydinkum says, strange that only an intern at lowy seems to know about this story.

    for the corby apologists, under indonesian law a pardon can only be sought and granted if the petitioner admits guilt.

  14. Billy Dean Says:

    So Kay Danes, are you saying she got a fair trial? Are you saying she was given a chance to plead not guilty?

    To say “There are plenty of cases whereby the judicial process has been followed in accordance with legislation” is misleading, because the legislation does not allow the accused the same rights as in many other countries, including Australia.

    Schapelle was allowed only to plead for a lesser sentence.

  15. shorty Says:

    billy dean the corby case has been examined every which way but loose.

    as far as i’m aware there has been little or no learned, impartial cricism, or fault found in indonesian law, of the processess and procedures under which she was tried and convicted.

    differences in legal procedures, social values, crimes and their sentences to the home state of the accused/convicted are meaningless.

    like it, lump it, whatever..it’s their country, their law. if you don’t like it, don’t go there. and if you go, as all countries expect, play by their rules.

  16. Kay Danes Says:

    Thanks Shorty for your comments. It does seem rather odd that there is no mention of the tweet and pardon if indeed the Lowy Institute put this message out there in the public. Very odd indeed.

    Billy Dean: It is pretty clear what I said….that it is incorrect to make such a generalisation to say that “no one” can get a fair trial in Indonesia.

    Further to this, the judicial processes in Indonesia and Australia are based on two entirely different systems of justice.

  17. Billy Dean Says:

    Shorty, are you deaf dumb and blind? No criticism? That’s just a bad joke!

    Were her bags weighed at Denpasar airport, as she requested?

    Were the bags fingerprinted, as requested?

    Were the Australian Federal Police given the sample they requested so they could check it’s origin?

    Was she allowed to plea not guilty?

    I don’t know why you bothered to post that trash, it’s totally meaningless and bears no resemblance to the status quo.

  18. Kay Danes Says:

    I could not find any mention of Schapelle’s Pardon or even a twitter link on their website. But I did manage to find this.

    http://twitter.com/lowyinterns

  19. Kay Danes Says:

    I would be very interested to find out who started this ‘rumour’ and why they would do such a thing! I just hope Schapelle doesn’t get wind of it. Nothing worse than building false hopes in a prisoner.

  20. shorty Says:

    perhaps billy dean i wasn’t as explicit as i should have been. rather than ‘..learned, impartial cricism..’ i should have said words to the effect of ‘criticism from legal experts conversant with indonesian law.’ my observation still stands.

    emotional outbursts do nothing to help corby. if anything the emotional rantings in the past have worked against her.

    i/we have heard the points you raised ad nauseum. has it helped her? no.

    if the objective is to reduce her sentence, get her home…. what you or i think of the ri legal system is irrelevant. due process under that system has been followed. due process under that system has the best chance of helping her.

    status quo? reality. corby has been convicted, appealed and reportedly petitioned for clemency.

    some minor philosophical points. play todays game, not a previous years grand final. pissing off, criticizing the referee and supporters is stupid and meaningless and non productive.

  21. Billy Dean Says:

    Shorty, do you have anything relevant to say?

    She didn’t get a fair trial, even by Indonesian standards.

    The police here have an obligation to give the accused every opportunity to prove their innocence BEFORE they are charged, in Schapelle’s case they failed to do so.

    Once she was charged and appeared in court it was too late.

    So due process wasn’t followed, and it’s quite correct to point that fact out.

  22. shorty Says:

    i’ve said it. if due process wasn’t followed i’m sure her legal team would have seized on it, or be in contact with you for instructions. over and out.

  23. Piper Says:

    About time sanity prevailed

  24. Only Facts Says:

    Two question to anyone who believes Schapelle got a fair trail/
    1 Why did Lindon Sirait refuse to allow the CCTV footage from above the customs counter at Ngurah Ria Airport into evidence?
    This should of been prosecution evidence if Winata’s version was true.

    2. Why wasn’t Winata allowed to be cross examined or his english proficiency tested?
    His evidence is what convicted Schapelle.

  25. Billy Dean Says:

    Shorty, that post proves you know absolutely nothing about the case.

    Well done, you saved me the trouble.

  26. Expat Says:

    If Miss Corby did infact pack 4.2 kilos of marijuana into her boogie board bag, then it follows that a crime was commited in Australia. Why was there no investigation in Australia to find her accomplices?
    Are we to believe that the AFP didn’t care?
    This affair stinks to high heaven of police corruption from both police forces.

  27. Expat Says:

    Hey Shorty.
    You may be right but only if you believe that everyone who fronts court in Indonesia is guilty.
    When Miss Corby faced Sirait she wasn’t afforded a 500 to 1 chance. She was offered a 500 to 0 chance of being found innocent.
    People continue to overlook this fact.

  28. Only Facts Says:

    “Indonesian authorities were caught between a rock and a hard place, particularly since the defence for Schapelle was unable to categorically prove her innocence as claimed.”
    I think you have that backwards Ms Danes.
    It is the prosecution that must prove catergorically guilt.

  29. Piper Says:

    McJannett will shortly open a can of worms about corruption, bribery and blackmail on an unbelievable scale that will shock most Australians. The Australian media will not be able to cover this up. I dare say that they will attempt to discredit him, they are already ending every report with McJannett was arrested at Bali airport with 1.7 grams of marijuana.
    Reinforcing public’s mind that he is a drug user.

  30. Dave Says:

    Schapelle needs to be brought home and given proper psychiatric care. It is a crime that she is being medicated by other prisoners.

  31. Kay Danes Says:

    Schapelle was given the right to legal counsel and it was up to her legal counsel to lodge a defence and complain formally to any and all actions that they wished to dispute. They were obviously inexperienced and were most certainly not strategic. But it does nothing to change Schapelle’s situation by rehashing what has past because the harsh reality is that the Indonesian authorities will simply say ‘You had your chance and you blew it…’… and all the legal challenges are now fully exhausted. Is it fair? No it’s not but that’s the way things are in legal challenges both in Indonesia, elsewhere and even in Australia. Seldom is anyone ever 100% satisfied with the process of law.

    You have to fully understand and appreciate the environment in which you are operating and that sometimes what is said to be so, is open to interpretation. So a good legal team would work around these obstacles to secure the best outcome for their client.

    Her case was also brought to the attention of Fair Trials International, Amnesty International and Amnesty Australia, Civil Liberties Australia, Get UP, UN agencies, the Innocence Project, prominent QC’s and none of which have thrown any support, or expressed any interest in taking up her case. Those who work on these cases every day understand the complexities and even when you have all the evidence on your side, you still face the very real prospect of sovereign rights and yes, injustice. Just look at some of the cases of the Innocence Project.

    Schapelle’s best chance of securing an early release, will be won through a calm, diplomatic and humble approach. It will not serve her any good to have a former prisoner, who was convicted for drug smuggling in an Indonesia court, to launch a public protest, using her name/plight to hit back at Indonesia for his grievance.

    This might seem strategic to Corby supporters to use him in this way but it would be foolish. It might even jeopardize her current appeal for clemency.

  32. Johno Says:

    There may be room for criticism of the trial but we shouldn’t condemn the entire system on false grounds or because it is different to our own.

  33. Mick Says:

    The decision by the Denpasar District Court to sentence Schapelle Corby to 20 years in jail was not surprising, given the evidence against her.

    The prosecution established a prima facie case against her relatively easily. There was no dispute that the cannabis was in her bag when it was opened at Bali’s Ngurah Rai Airport. Their witness said Corby had admitted it was hers. She denied this – as might be expected, regardless of whether she was guilty or innocent.

    The Indonesian system has enshrined the presumption of innocence in legislation as a human right, but once a prima facie case is established – that is, the minimum required to establish the elements of the charge – the burden effectively shifts to the defence to counter the prosecution case. This is true of almost all legal systems, including, in most cases, our own. Corby’s main problem was that her defence team did not rise well to the challenge of countering the prima facie prosecution case by proving her baggage-handler hypothesis.

    Sunk by defence team that didn’t rise to the challenge
    By Tim Lindsey
    May 28, 2005

    Tim Lindsey is Professor of Asian Law, director of the Asian Law Centre at the University of Melbourne.

  34. Billy Dean Says:

    Schapelle was not sunk by her defence team at all, they had nothing to work with, the Indonesians customs made sure of that.

    The easiest thing in the world, and the first thing that would have been done in most countries, would have been to weigh her bags.

    They would have been either four kilos over her check-in weight, or the same, guilt of innocence would then have been proven absolutely.

    Why did the Indonesian customs refuse the request to weigh them?

    The same goes for their refusal to fingerprint, or to give a sample of the marijuana to the Australian Federal Police.

    They had a prima facie case, and were determined that nothing was going to dispute it.

    By the time it got to court Schapelle’s defence had nothing to work on except the words of the customs officers.

    Anyone who has ever been to court on the say so of a policeman knows what that means …. “He was speeding your honour.” …. “No I wasn’t your honour.” ….

  35. Mick Says:

    So why didn’t the legal team demand the weighing of the bags? I know someone who got arrested over there and they demanded the authorities recheck the fingerprints and they did. Even if they’d weighed her bags and there were differences in the weights it still wouldn’t have guaranteed an automatic release for this young woman. I read somewhere else they did give a sample of the substance to her lawyers. Why didn’t they get the drug tested? What good does it do her now? It’s not like you have grounds to take it to any International Court.

  36. Steve Says:

    Billy Dean: Tim Lindsey is Professor of Asian Law, director of the Asian Law Centre at the University of Melbourne. He is a very well respected expert on Indonesian law. What are your qualifications?

  37. Billy Dean Says:

    Once they refused to weigh the bags at the airport it was too late. The boogie board bag was kept, her other bags were given to her brother to take from the airport. They could not have been weighed later because the bags had left the custody of the Indonesian customs.

    Had they been weighed at the time, and had they been four kilos heavier than when they were checked in, it would have been near impossible to convict her.

    I can find no evidence that a sample was given to her defence, even though it was asked for several times by them, and by the Australian Federal Police.

    This isn’t about what it can do for her now, this is in answer to those people who claim she had a fair trial.

  38. Steve D Says:

    I hope there is some truth to this story.
    She really needs to be hospitalized in Australia.

  39. shorty Says:

    people line up pro and anti corby. most of the points raised in the posts have been flogged and repeated unmercifully.

    ok, shout your opinion from the roof tops. you might feel better, but it does little to help/alleviate her position.

    the corby machine is her worst enemy.

    there’s a basic rule being forgotten….their game, their rules, their ball, their referee. scream all you like. it’s immaterial if you think it’s unfair. it’s the way it is.

    to the armchair avocats if you think you can do better, don’t post, offer your services and suggestions to her legal team. remember tho, you have to convince and provide cogent legal argument to the indonesian judiciary.

  40. Piper Says:

    Vasu the lawyers coordinator slipped a small amount of the marijuana into his pocket and wanted to get it tested.
    This of course would of been a waste of time as the chain of evidence had been broken.
    As for the defence asking for the bags to be weighed, that ship had sailed at the airport. Schapelle requested the bags be weighed at the airport, but the police refused.
    I don’t blame the Indonesian’s for Schapelle’s plight, no more than you blame a spider for biting you if you disturb it. That is the nature of the beast.
    I do blame the AFP for not assisting her with her requests for fingerprinting, DNA testing of the pollen caught in the resin to find out exactly where it was grown and mostly for not conducting a full investigation in Australia.
    All these things Schapelle requested.
    Guilty people do not request investigations, they just try and defend the prosecution evidence that is put forward at trial.
    When asked why the AFP had not performed an investigation of any kind on Australian soil. Keelty said and I quote verbatim “We are not in the business of clearing people”
    Schapelle’s home or car was never searched and the AFP found it unnecessary to interview her friends or family.
    This was supposedly the first time a commercial quantity of marijuana had been intercepted going out of Australia!
    Keelty doesn’t want to investigate?
    Howard doesn’t want to find her accomplices?

  41. Billy Dean Says:

    You’re an idiot shorty, you have nothing to say except to ridicule the points raised and the concerns of people regarding her trial.

    Offer your points to her legal team? What for? Pray tell, what is there left for her legal team to do?

    People like you just hate it when others have an opinion you don’t agree with.

    What are YOUR ideas for alleviating her condition, what do YOU think should be done … or are you only concerned with commenting on other people?

  42. Piper Says:

    Heaven help you Mick if you ever arrive at an airport and someone has decided to put something illegal in your luggage that has been out of your control for ten hours.
    What do you reckon you would do Mick?
    Ask the police to weigh the luggage to prove a discrepancy from check in?
    Ask the police to stop contaminating the evidence by not wearing gloves?
    Ask the police to fingerprint the inner bag?
    Ask the police to give the AFP a sample of the drugs to test the pollen caught in the sticky resin to discover exactly where it was grown?
    Ask the AFP to collect cctv footage from three Australian airports that may have captured vision of your boogie board?
    Ask the AFP to interview the Qantas staff at oversized baggage to see if they remembered you and your boogie board bag?
    Ask the AFP to do a thorough investigation back in Australia to find something, anything that might help you?
    Ask for the cctv at Ngurah Rai above the customs counter to be admitted into evidence?
    Ask for Winata the customs officer to have an english proficiency test?
    Please Mick can you offer something else that you might of done to clear your name?

  43. Cat cat girl Says:

    I would love to hear that Ms Corby be pardoned. I have lived in Bali for 4 years now and have seen first hand the corruption of the legal system. Indonesians and the Indonesian media call it the “Justice Mafia”. It is a problem that all Indonesian’s want to be fixed and something that they are trying to crack down on which is will be a very hard job! No one who has every spent any time here can say that the legal system is just and fair. Justice system meaning lawyers, prosecution, judges, police. Even with the best lawyers in the country she would not of received a fair trial.

  44. Cat cat girl Says:

    Didnt Schapelle and her legal team request all the evidence be tested? DNA, fingerprints, weigh of the bags ect.. It was not done by the police here and they would not give a sample of the evidence to the Australian police who offered to help test it. (just googled it to double check). Why would the police here not do this most basic of protocol testing? Why would the prosecution and judges not allow it to be done? Why was the evidence burn’t even before all her avenue’s were completed? All a bit weird to me. To give someone a 20 year prison sentence it should of been a must that all testing the evidence be done.

  45. Expat Says:

    I can’t think of anything else.

  46. paul d Says:

    Im a fence sitter, however I’m from Oz (australia) and if you are not, youre probobly dont know that the whole family has been at it for years! a known fact by anyone who knows the family.Sure no fair trial but hey dont take drugs to Indonesia.No Indonesian is going to plant 4Kgs of anything on you (it’s just too expensive when you could plant a reefer and she’d still get banged up.C’mon you sympathises get your facts straight and realize Indonesias penalties for trafficking are HARSH so dont do it.suffer in ya jocks Chappers.

  47. shorty Says:

    billy dean reread my posts.

    i’ve not expressed an opinion on corbys guilt or conviction. i’ve not ridiculed the other opinions. i’ve queried their effectiveness in helpng her.

    my thoughts?

    if the case is to be reviewed, or she is to be released, repatriated or have her sentence reduced it has to appear to be within the ‘law’.

    she’s at the final legal process – a plea for clemency. this must be accompanied by an admission of guilt.(i didn’t say, imply, suggest she is guilty). sby said he would not pardon drug smugglers. would he reconsider? can he order a judicial review? are his hands tied?

    i don’t know, you don’t know.

    i’d use the ‘justice mafia’. they know and understand the game. maybe someone with enough clout could be given enough reason and incentive to help her.

    could local political pressure help? politicians love attacking each other. find some local politicians to be involved. again probably a matter of reason and incentive.

    avoid criticizing the judiciary and legal system UNLESS you have incontrovertible proof of wrong doing. it’s illogical, after all to achieve your goal you need their help.

    ask that people like mcjannett bite their tongues. ask that rumours be substantiated. ask the womans day to curb their stories. they’re counterproductive.

    i’d consider broadening the base to include the bali nine and make due process the key. the more cases you examine the more potential breaches you’ll find. you’ll probably gain more supporters.

    the corby case has generated a huge amount of online traffic. 90+% expresses and reiterates the wrongs and perceived wrongs, supporting the converted and castigating the non believer.

    imagine if this mental energy and emotion was directed at potential solutions.

  48. Piper Says:

    Paul you obviously believe the media misinformation about the family.
    Your post is another example of how the Australian media have brainwashed the easily led in Australia and a sorry example of an Australian who is not only prepared to turn his back on his fellow county woman but is quite prepared to perpetuate the media lies.

    There is so much misinformation about the Corby case, particularly the family. They are NOT involved in drugs. They have submitted police reports clearing their names to freeschapelle.com.au

    Schapelle’s father’s police report: http://www.ezinet.com.au/images/1.jpg

    Schapelle’s mother: http://www.ezinet.com.au/images/2.jpg

    Brother: http://www.ezinet.com.au/images/3.jpg

    Sister: http://www.ezinet.com.au/images/4.jpg

    Don’t believe it? Contact Queensland Police to verify it. There is a reference number at the top right of each report that can be checked.

    paul d do yourself a favour and do some research before you embarrass yourself further.

  49. Billy Dean Says:

    Paul D, I’m from the Gold Coast and I know the Corby family well, I now live in Bali and have visited Schapelle several times. The bullshit you posted has done more damage to her cause than anything else.

    The family have never been involved in drug smuggling, some of them have smoked it, as have many millions of other Australians. None of them have grown it, Mick Corby’s neighbour did, but that doesn’t make Mick guilty, and the lies about him came out after he died, when he couldn’t defend himself …. from people like you.

    Having lived here and visited here over several years I can tell you quite categorically there is NO market here for Australian grass, on the streets here it’s a cheap as you’d expect in a third world country where it grows wild.

    The Indonesian customs have said themselves that this is the first grass that they have ever seen brought into Bali, except the odd very small, personal amount.

    The Corby family could never have found the money to buy that amount, and no-one would be stupid enough to bring it here to sell.

    People like you should realise the damage you have done by your bullshit, and the damage you continue to do, if it were your family you’d keep your mouth shut, I suggest you do the same now.

  50. Kay Danes Says:

    Sadly there are few remedies against unfair trials, even when you have irrefutable proof and a Government supporting you. Your lawyers are forced to adapt to the environment and work around the obstacles. Sadly, Schapelle was not represented by experienced lawyers. I believe it is ‘they’ who failed ‘her’ more than anything else.

    But even so, at the end of the day, the harsh reality is, that in Indonesia and most of the other surrounding countries, when you buck the system and cry foul play, you’ll most certainly be the one coming off worse even if you have evidence!

    Factor in media circus, politics, bilateral and trade agreements and counterclaims…. and cases can escalate to a certain point where you really don’t stand a chance.

    UN mandates like ICCPR and UN Declaration of Human Rights, don’t provide any guarantees EVEN when the detaining State is proven to have violated them (have to be a signatory to in the first place). There are so many loopholes in these mandates which by design, were only ever written as guidelines so that we would all have a basic understanding on how to be human and act accordingly towards other members of the human race. But in my opinion, the UN is like an old lady who leaves her teeth beside the bed in a glass of water.

    Everyone can and should continue to join organisations that lobby Governments to agree to, sign, ratify and comply with international treaties containing fair trial standards. BUT with accountability… I proposed to our Government that a violated Citizen should be able to make a claim of compensation against the foreign aid granted to the offending State so long as it could be clearly proved that their rights were wholly violated.

    A key strategy to ensuring respect for international fair trial standards is an integrated approach to continuous education of judges, lawyers and law enforcement. It’s one thing to get countries like Indonesia to sign key mandates and another thing to get everyone to understand what these mandates mean. They take ages to get ratified into legislation and then the working knowledge diseminated throughout the legal quarter/law enforcment/judicary.

    Unfortunately all that doesn’t do anything to help Schapelle Corby in the short term and some argue that neither do Prisoner Transfer Agreements. But all of which are vital to developing the current system.

  51. John Power Says:

    Seems like her ” I’m a loon” trick is working!

  52. Don Says:

    Free her before there is blood on Rudd’s hands

  53. Gold Coasters Know the Truth Says:

    PAUL D…I am 150% with you as a lot of my colleagues are…..Billy Dean, If you truly Know all the Corby’s then what you are saying here is pure crap! Also, after speaking to many expats in Bali, there is a ‘want’market for GOOD marijuana as the local marijuana is not good and not so cheap….so i suggest YOU stop the crap and let everyone have their opinion! I believe she is guilty but i wouldn’t wish anyone 20 years in prison for marijuana but i also respect other countries rules and regulations and if you do the crime, pay the frieking time!!!

  54. Gold Coasters Know the Truth Says:

    Her sister is married to a Balinese man!!, don’t tell me that she doesn’t ‘know’ how the ‘system’ works in Bali….Most people who have ever gone to Bali, perhaps only 1 time, knows how the ‘system’ works so if Chapper’s sister is married to a Balinese man from Kuta……work it out skeptics or visit the Gold Coast and ask the locals! A lot of people were questioned but a lot of people refused to ‘tell-all-on-record’….did the police know about the corby family?, did the AFP know about the Corby family….did they know about them for years??? hmmmmm some people believe/know they do!!!!

  55. Billy Dean Says:

    GCKTT, you know nothing, I live here, and I know the local scene, I know what’s for sale on the streets, how much it costs, and how good it is, it’s a part of my work here.

    There is NO market here for Aussie grass, and the local cost is way lower than the wholesale price in OZ, if there was a market there would have been many more busts, instead of the ONE six years ago.

    So the bullshit is coming from YOU, and the other idiots like you.

    I also know the Corbys, so what you have to say, based on the local gossip, is totally meaningless.

    When you’ve walked the walk you can talk the talk, until then continue hiding behind your pseudonym and talk crap.

  56. Celliso Says:

    gold Coasters know the truth
    I don’t believe anything that you say.. Living in Bali everyone knows who the drug dealers are and you will never find anyone who brought drugs from a Corby. You hear the my friends friend bulls#t often but they are only trying to big note and usually stuff up with their story as it changes with each sentence. I also think that if there was any real evidence of the Corby’s being big drug dealers it would of come out when Mercedes took channel 7 to court for defamation! channel 7 would of spent millions investigating the corby’s and what did they get?? nothing but a photo of Mercedes smoking a joint when she was 17.. fyi- I am also from the Gold Coast, now living in Seminyak.

  57. Celliso Says:

    gold coasters know the truth
    so how does the system work here? Are you trying to say that they should of paid a sh#t load of cash and she would not be in prison??
    If you were innocent why would you pay? if you were not into drugs and never dealt with the system how would you know how it works??
    Its people like you who should “work it out”
    If you didn’t know it is also against the law to bribe an officer or the courts in both Australia and Indonesia..

  58. shorty Says:

    billy dean says i’m an idiot. reading some of the posts i’m inclined to agree – i can’t see how slagging people with a different opinion can help the corby cause. perhaps someone can enlighten me.

    for the record, corby was not the first caught bringing in smoke to bali. michael blanc was caught in ’99 and convicted for bringing in 3.8kg of hash.

    look at the profilesof convicted

  59. shorty Says:

    apologies..wrong button.

    look at the profiles of convicted smugglers currently held in indonesian jails. the majority were caught bringing gear into ri.

    bringing it in doesn’t necessarily mean it’s for local consumption. it can be merely a staging point for transhipment. the bali 9 case supports this.

  60. Celliso Says:

    Australia is not a producer of Hash so i very much doubt Michael Blanc was on a flight from Australia. Maybe India where it is cheap and sold in Bali a profit would be made.
    In the Corby case the marijuana would of been worth much more in Australia. Why would anyone take the huge risk and make no money in Bali when more money could be made in Australia where if caught you would be lucky to get a fine?

  61. Billy Dean Says:

    shorty, I don’t know if you do this deliberately or not, and care less …. Blanc brought HASHISH from India, not grass from Australia, so it has nothing to do with what I stated, that NO grass from Australia has ever been found smuggled into Bali, before or since.

    There is NO market for it here, unless you are stupid, and want to lose a lot of money.

  62. shorty Says:

    so what? before blanc no one had been sprung bringing in hash. before corby….before the bali nine….how do you know bali/ri is the ultimate market?

    how the hell does this nitpicking help corby?

    wow…i told shorty he’s a dickhead….i’m sure kerobokan is now more comfortable.

  63. Steve Says:

    Always a first time for everything. It’s like saying Renae Lawrence got busted on a first offense when in actual fact she’d done the run to Bali several times before.

  64. Billy Dean Says:

    Wow shorty, I touched a nerve there, you really don’t like being proved wrong, do you?

    You shouldn’t be so precious.

  65. Billy Dean Says:

    Steve, as near sighted as shorty, are you related?

    Renae Lawrence was taking drugs out of Bali, not bringing them in.

  66. Brian Says:

    According to a NZ web site someone is about to release proof of AFP corruption.

  67. Brian Says:

    I think Steve and Shorty are one and the same.
    Notice how shorty starts back peddling with..
    “how the hell does this nitpicking help corby?”

    These people who believe there is a market for Oz marijuana fell for Matthew Moore’s “Why Australian expats crave Aussie Gold” printed in most major newspapers on the 26th of May 2005 hook, line and sinker.
    The day before the Australian government new Schapelle was going to be convicted of a crime she did not commit.
    The story was designed to quell support for Schapelle, it gave Australians a reason to believe that she maybe guilty.
    Anyone with half a brain who actually analysed the beat up could quickly see through it.
    The story goes that the “Aussie Gold” was worth $20,000 a kilo in Bali as he bases them on selling the mj by the gram in Bali.
    If you sold 4.2 kilos of smoke in Sydney at the time by the gram it actually works out in excess of $25,000. Moore quoted wholesale by the kilo prices if sold in Oz and by the gram in Bali.
    To this day idiots still haven’t done the math.

  68. Anna Mia Says:

    Forget everything else about that article Brian.

    Don’t people realise that the Balinese along with the rest of the world have worked out how to grow dope hydrponically?
    Anyone can grow it, so why take the risk of importing it.
    Matthew Moore should be brought before a royal commission to find out exactly who put him up to it.

  69. Toucha Says:

    When will you all wake up & see SBY for the racist Muslim pig that he is?? Schapelle (contrary to the crap posted by Kay Danes) NEVER got a fair trial! That was (in hindsight) always an impossibility. The Indonesians have wanted to make an example of Schapelle since the day she was arrested & have now got us all sitting in their little hand just where they want us. Their racist despise of Australians is absolutely vile. As for the 3 Aussies on deathrow, their cases are completely different- they are guilty, Schapelle is not. Simple as that! If any readers here want true facts on Schapelle’s case then go to the website freeschapelle.com for proof of why SBY MUST pardon Scapelle. Any other decision by him just further proves the pathetic, weak & racist leader that he is! To all true supporters of the innocent Schapelle: please join Don, Morph, Al, Nosaj & myself at freeschapelle.com. Thanks in advance! Toucha.

  70. todd Says:

    Here in austrailia i have not herd anything of this talk.But xxoo corby.

  71. Steve Says:

    Maybe Matthew Moore put the drugs in her bag? lmao

  72. shorty Says:

    sorry brian, i’m not steve.

    reread my posts. i’m not back pedalling. i ask you again, “how the hell does this nitpicking help corby?”

    everthing pro corby posted here has been posted elsewhere and in court. has it helped? no.

    you might feel better, but she’s still in kerobokan.

    shouting at a deaf man doesn’t restore his hearing.

  73. Roy Says:

    Nowhere in Indonesia’s clemency laws it is stated that a prisoner must first admit guilt in order to receive clemency.

    The Corby family were not, and are not, involved in the drug trade. I have known them for 25 years, so I know. I also posses copies of those Police Certificates mentioned earlier, which prove beyond doubt that the Corby’s (Dad, Mum, Mercedes, Michael and Schapelle) do not have criminal records.

    GCKTT’s suggestion that a lot of Gold Coaster’s were questioned by the AFP about the Corby family, following Schapelle’s arrest, is absolute rubbish. Her alleged crime was not investigated in Australia, at all, and this in itself raises a lot of unanswered questions.

    At this stage, however, Schapelle’s innocence is not the issue at stake. She is seriously mentally ill and urgently needs to be repatriated on humanitarian grounds, so she can receive the much needed medical treatment that she simply will not get all the while she remains in Kerobokan Prison.

    So, to those misguided individuals who believe Schapelle is guilty, how about showing some compassion for a fellow Australian, and support her bid for clemency. Her very life will almost certainly depend on a successful outcome.

  74. shorty Says:

    sorry roy, under the legal process a plea for presidential clemency must contain an admission of guilt.

    20 years or admit guilt ( whether true or not is immaterial) – if you want to get out/go home… a no brainer.

    as i’ve said before, it’s their game and rules.

  75. Roy Says:

    Sorry shorty, but you are wrong. Schapelle’s application for clemency is based on the fact that she has a serious and deteriorating mental illness. She is asking to be pardoned on humanitarian grounds, and according to Indonesian law, there is NO requirement for her to admit guilt in these circumstances.

    As you say, their game, their rules, and this IS their ruling on the matter.

  76. warga bali Says:

    haaa you guys are all got to much opinion, get a job .no ones really knows the truth end of the story .

  77. Louise Says:

    I agree with warga Bali (75)…….What is wrong with all of you????….especially Billy Dean, you seem hell bent on sounding like a repetative idiot. Having lived in Bali for 15 years many years ago, I am saddened to read the ramblings of certain people on this site proclaiming to be expats now living in Bali. Morons who are obviously very in the know about the local drug scene, or at least they make out they are. Sad pathetic creatures who are of no benefit to either society I’m afraid. I think all of you “I know I live here” respondents, know nothing at all.No one really knows !!

  78. steve san Says:

    anyone who has ever seen,smoked,smelt or brought pot around indo would know its total crap and not worth the energy. its all stalk and corn on the cob ie seed and only gives you a headache,about 12 years ago i brought it twice smoked a big joint and got nothing out off it so flused it, may i suggest drink more bintang,.so there is a market for good pot here at extremely high prices thats why the corby team thought they could keep getting away with it. billy dean is bias and cant see the heads for the cabbage ie leaf and should let people have their say, i live in banjer with my local family wife children etc and couldnt count more than 5 locals that think the corby team is not guilty, at least shortys on the right track and hes putting out his veiws but not dictate ing,good on ya shorty, p s. the old story you got caught but how many times did they get through…..

  79. Roy Says:

    Sorry shorty, but you are wrong. Schapelle’s application for clemency is based on the fact that she has a serious and deteriorating mental illness. She is asking to be pardoned on humanitarian grounds, and according to Indonesian law, there is NO requirement for her to admit guilt in these circumstances.

    As you say, their game, their rules, and this IS their ruling on the matter.

    I notice my earlier posting of this comment (21st) is still awaiting moderation. This must have been overlooked, so I am posting it again.

  80. Roy Says:

    The Corby family have NEVER taken marijuana to Bali, and no one else has ever, deliberately, taken a commercial quantity there from Australia either.

    In 1997 Steve and Dee did find themselves in a similar situation to Schapelle. Upon arrival in their Bali hotel they found compressed marijuana in their bag. They contacted the Australian Consulate who advised them to flush the drugs down the toilet, which they did.

    There is no other known case of a commercial quantity of marijuana being imported into Bali from Australia.

    If Australian marijuana was regularly available in Bali, there would have been more than one arrest (Schapelle’s). The notion that Australian marijuana is available in Bali, is a myth.

  81. Donna Says:

    Didn’t Corby’s family put in the clemency application for her? I don’t think that she would need to admit guilt if the clemency application was submitted on her behalf on humanitarian grounds.
    I think that Shorty may be wrong with his assumptions on that one.

  82. Melly Says:

    Yeah Roy you idiot who says Corbys aren’t guilty just because you say so doesn’t mean it’s true. How much of a naive fool are you? As for the pardon application, you should go and read the law in Indonesia and understand the way things are. If all you do gooders would shut up your mouth than your Corby would not be still there.

  83. Jens Says:

    I think that now the judges have given recommendations that Corby’s sentence be given a substantial cut means that she did not have to admit guilt like so many of you “know it alls” made out. Roy you were right and I think people like Melly who called u an idiot need to apologies.

  84. Stupified Says:

    To “Only Facts”; you are correct in the prosecution needing to find substantial guilt. Once prosecution has their evidence, it is on the defense attorneys to disprove the facts or evidence. Two words and the prosecution has enough evidence to find her guilty, prima facie. Schapelle admitted that the boogie board bag was in fact hers. At that time, once the bag was opened, that was enough evidence for the prosecution (Citing the legal definition of prima facie: Evidence that is sufficient to raise a presumption of fact or to establish the fact in question unless rebutted).

    The defense team did a lackluster job, constantly making mistakes. Not to mention the entire Corby family was running around waiving bribes around on camera. Not only the family, but an Indonesian lawyer and “Mad Ron” making claims that the judges requested bribes. None of that was working in favor of her defense, in fact, it was clogging up what could have been a clear but defense based on the authorities not taking proper action after prima facie was established. Had the press not made a spectacle of the case, the Corby family stayed out of the media, and a solid defense team assembled and the proper defense position established, Schapelle would not be serving 20 years, if any at all.

    To “Roy”; if you do in fact know the family, then it is just plain ignorant to claim none of them have records. James, Schapelles half brother has been arrested for drug charges, pictures of Mercedes and Michael with weed and a pipe in hand have hit the internet. The family is a bunch of shady characters that thought they were smart enough to beat the system, but when the pressure of the law came down, none of them could keep their composure and turned the whole trial into a circus and solidified Schapelle being convicted.

    And Im not saying that the 500/500 conviction rating is just, but without all the bull that happened outside of the court, the defense had a very compelling case. She surely wouldn’t be doing anywhere near 20 years even if convicted.

    To “Billy Dean”; Schapelle was in fact given a chance to plead not guilty, she made that plea the whole trial. She also made her final closing plea on the day the judges gave their verdict in which she sat in the middle of the court, alone, and plead for her release and a verdict of not guilty. It was filmed and made into a documentary. Her was her exact closing statement: “I cannot admit to a crime I did not commit. And to the judges, my life at the moment is in your hands, but I would prefer if my life was in your hearts….And your Honour, I ask of you to show compassion, to find me innocent, to send me home. Saya tidak bersalah (“I am not guilty”, in Indonesian).”

    To follow the facts from both sides of the law, you cant be bias towards any one way. This post might seem one sided, against Schapelle, but I acknowledge the wrongs made by the Indonesian officials. However, like its been said before in documents I’ve read through, her asking, after the drugs had been seized and she was arrested, the Indonesian officials don’t have to tailor to her requests for the tapes and for the bags to be weighed. That is the job of her legal counsel to put in formal requests. Instead, the defense made up untrue scenarios of bag checkers loading up the bags with marijuana because he happened to hear some news a few days prior about a cocaine syndicate.

    The defense had no business trying that case. The family shouldnt have been anywhere near the media. The Indonesian officials should have proceeded with by-the-book evidence gathering; however they had prima facie on their side and the defense did nothing to rebut it, which alone is enough to seal a conviction, especially in a loose judicial system of Indonesia.

    To be ironic and pretentious, you can put that in your pipe and smoke it. Every word is fact, not bias to any one side from before I gathered the facts, in fact, when I watched the documentary, for a long while I was pulling for her. The fact of the matter is, there was nothing on her defense that helped her, only hindered her if anything. Made it a walk in the park for the prosecution, who I can guarantee planned and prepped for a much more grueling back and fourth trial then the circus of no defense that they went up against.

  85. Trent Says:

    I just recently saw the Schapelle documentary,so for me it’s kind of like “watching the whole pre-recorded ball game,and the home team loses!”.There really should be a program ratings warning “SE” (sad ending),because my heart stopped when she was sentenced 20 years.I sincerely hope Schapelle gets a pardon,but can someone please help me to understand…why not rent a board(luggage fee)…was the board still in the bag and did they check for prints…if the board was missing,did they search the airport?

  86. james Says:

    she was innocent to begin with; iNDONESIA STILL BOTCHED THE SHOW TRAIL. Now they want to get rid of her and save face. Now is their chance. There is no purpose in having her caged anymore’ If she dies, the stigma will never leave Bali. Been there before, but would never, never go again.I think if SBY refuses this, Julia should cut all aid to Indonesia until she is released
    James Dallas, Texas USA

  87. Erwin (The Netherlands) Says:

    @ Trent (85): I started to read everything about Schapelle, after I have seen Ganja Queen on the Belgian television on march,31st this year and since that day I haven’t stopped. I might call it “studying” the case. I have been reading the pro’s and the contras. In the beginning I also had my thoughts, but the more I was reading, the more I was convinced that she didn’t had a fair trial. When you read everything concerning this trial, you would understand that a trial and investigation this can never be possible in any other civilized country. Trent, i will help you out with your questions.
    1. Schapelle didn’t rent a board because she had one. Why rent something that you have yourself? You wouldn’t buy shorts on your vacation address just because they are cheaper, do you? I don’t rent any diving gear because I have this of my own.
    2. the board was still in the bag, so they didn’t have to search for it and no, they didn’t checked her luggage for fingerprints, even after she begged to do this. Of course I could tell you so many things about this tragic story, but I give you a good advice Trent, just do the same as I did, and start reading. Remember, this is a story without an end although, I hope, and thousands of others around the world with me, that this will end VERY soon.
    Best regards from The Netherlands, Europe.

  88. Dong Terherst Says:

    So as a first step, let’s focus on helping third world countries become nic’s.

  89. Al Wilson Says:

    Were are the Australian governments humanitarian representations on behalf of schapelle ???.

    The Australian government are playing out lolly pop support.

  90. unforgivenwaves Says:

    The trial was unfair and the Australian government failed in their duty to ensure a fair trial under local law.

    The AFP failed to undertake proper police procedures to investigate a possible link to a criminally organized drug smuggling operation that occurred in the same Australian international air port the same day Schapelle’s flight left for Bali.

    Every one knows that Australians do not traffic drugs to Indonesia.

    The Australian government and it’s agency’s day of judgment is coming closer.

    Don’t worry about that blaming Schapelle crap,it don’t work no more.

    Australians like can clearly see through the media witch hunt that was aimed at covering up the inconsistencies of Australian officials involved in the care and conduct of giving assistance to Schapelle in relation to her overseas trial.